Learn how to telepathically communicate with your pets by shifting your consciousness — with time-tested methods and real-time practices from Penelope Smith, the Grandmother of Animal Communication — bringing peace, harmony, and joy into your own life, and deepening your connection with the animals around you.
Have you ever wondered what your pet was trying to tell you when they misbehaved, or how they felt when you spent quality time together?
Maybe you sensed your pet was struggling, and wished you could help or comfort them…
Actually, you can, says Penelope Smith, a pioneering animal communicator who coined the term interspecies telepathic communication — the process of exchanging information telepathically with other species, including humans, plants, animals, and microorganisms.
Known for her trailblazing work, influential publications, and dedication to teaching and promoting telepathic communication with animals, Penelope has significantly shaped the field over the past 40 years.
Everyone has the ability to communicate with animals and all forms of life — says Penelope. As you learn from animals and deepen your connection with them, you’ll also come to understand the innermost essence of who you are.
When you tap into your innate skills and connect more deeply with animals through interspecies telepathic communication, you’ll find greater harmony with the animals in your life as you address their behavioral issues and needs — and more peace and joy within yourself as you learn to trust your intuition.
As you’ll also discover, animals respond favorably to being treated as fellow spiritual beings, which has been the key to Penelope’s success in communicating with them for decades (and teaching her students how to do the same)...
Join Penelope for a brand-new 7-week course as she guides you on a spiritual journey to discover and develop your telepathic communication skills with animals and other forms of nature.
Each week, Penelope will share new wisdom teachings and practical exercises so you can practice embracing your innate interspecies telepathic communication skills and receive real-time feedback and validation. You’ll also learn how telepathic communication uniquely works for you.
As you learn from your animal friends and help them heal from their issues, your relationships with them will deepen and grow — plus, you’ll discover how animals often become more cooperative and harmonious with each other, too, as an added benefit.
Penelope began communicating telepathically with animals as a child, and has gone on to connect with thousands of animals throughout her career — and teaching thousands of students around the world to do the same.
Penelope’s journey into animal communication grew into a career in the 1970s when she was deeply involved in spiritual counseling, including advanced past-life regressions.After successfully helping a severely traumatized cat using the same techniques she used to help people, she realized she could apply her extensive knowledge in counseling, bodywork, energy work, and nutritional counseling to help animals overcome their challenges as well!
Another of Penelope’s remarkable success stories involves her work with a semi-paralyzed grizzly bear at the Earthfire Institute Wildlife Sanctuary. Penelope communicated with both the mother bear and a stalking male bear, relating that "a guiding spirit I call Spirit Bear came in to work with this situation to bring it to an optimum state." This long-distance healing resulted in the bear regaining mobility, showcasing Penelope's extraordinary ability to connect with all beings.
When you join Penelope, you’ll learn how to attune to the spiritual essence of all beings, and build a deeper connection with the animals in your life as your perspective widens and you understand yourself more deeply than ever.
Penelope will be your guide as you address your animals’ trauma and behavioral issues — and experience a deeper connection to nature and all species, knowing you can communicate with trillions of beings on the planet.
In this 7-week live video course, you’ll:
- Rediscover your innate skill of telepathic communication with other species — an ability everyone has, but that many have forgotten
- Learn how telepathic communication works for you, specifically
- Have your intuition and skills validated by a human partner
- Deepen your connection with — and learn from — the animals in your life through the practice of being quietly present
- Bridge the (perceived) gap in your understanding of animals, tapping into their perspectives by cultivating a shift in consciousness — and access your own deeper wisdom as you learn more about yourself along the way
- Transform feelings of disconnection by communicating telepathically with animals and all forms of life
- Identify what’s blocking your ability to receive communication from animals more effectively — fear of your animal friend saying something hurtful
- Be guided through a process with a partner to learn how you have already communicated telepathically with animals and how it works for you
- Distinguish your thoughts and feelings from those of others so you can clearly receive other species’ communications
- Bring your own animal companion to participate in a few exercises with you, if you both feel comfortable
- Experience your communication ability expanding when you help another person with things they don’t fully understand about their animal friend
- Participate in weekly practices, some with a partner, to expand your abilities and put what you’re learning into action
The core foundation of this course is presence — being quietly present and receptive with animals. As you deepen your presence, you'll transition from simple everyday conversations to profound connections, gaining deeper insights from your animal companions.
You’ll also learn how to connect to members of non-animal species, if you choose — such as a tree in a park, a body of water nearby, a plant in or near your home, a mountain, or other land formation you’ve been curious about and would like to get to know better.
Penelope's course incorporates techniques that shift your consciousness, enabling you to connect with animals and plants as spiritual beings. As you learn to listen sensitively and feel deeply, you'll find yourself more connected to your body and life, evolving alongside your pets and plants.
During your time with Penelope, you’ll realize that you always had the skills to communicate with billions of beings around you who have their own attitudes about life that can enhance human enjoyment and peace.
What You’ll Discover in These 7 Weeks
In this 7-week transformational course, Penelope will guide you through the fundamental skills and competencies you’ll need to dive deeply into the discipline of interspecies telepathic communication.
Join the Livestream — or Stream Later to Watch at Your Convenience
You’ll connect with Penelope and experience her teachings through livestreaming video via any connected device. This connection is easy to use and will enhance the impact of Penelope’s transmissions. Can’t make it live? After each class, you can stream the video and audio recordings to enjoy anytime and anywhere at your convenience.
Weekly Sessions Wednesdays at 9:00am Pacific
This course will feature LIVE teachings, interactive sessions, experiential practices, and Q&A with Penelope. Each session will build harmoniously upon the previous ones, featuring weekly practical exercises and in-the-moment feedback from Penelope as you communicate with other species — forging deeper connections with your animal companions, and with your own inner wisdom and joy.
Module 1: Laying the Foundation for Effective All-Species Communication & Deeper Animal Connections (July 17)
As you begin your journey with Penelope, set the tone for grounded connection and communication with all species.
She’ll open with a drumming practice to call upon the wisdom of the ancestors and all forms of life on Earth. You’ll establish your communication foundation through the Earth in an ever-widening circle.
Connect with your fellow participant animal lovers. In breakout rooms, share your name, general history with animals, what you hope to get from this course — and if you’d like, a story of an animal that was or is a major influence in your life.
Receive Penelope’s fundamental pointers to enhance telepathic communication with all life.
Learn the barriers you may have that limit your telepathic connection with animals — and how to operate in a way that helps you successfully send and receive telepathic communication with them.
In this module, you’ll:
- Establish a grounded connection with Mother Earth as a foundation for your work over the next 7 weeks
- Widen your connection from your own animal friends to all the animals on Earth
- Feel the sacredness of telepathic communication with all species
- Learn how to refine your attitudes and behaviors to enhance your ability to communicate with animals
- Begin to connect with all species in an opening drumming circle that’s in harmony with the heartbeat of Mother Earth
Module 2: Reawaken Your Telepathic Animal Connection & Discover How Animal Communication Works for You (July 24)
Many people already communicate with animals and aren’t aware they’re doing it. Because they don’t know how it works and don’t recognize it, they don’t know how to develop their ability further.
As Penelope will explain, we’re all born with the ability to telepathically communicate and receive other species’ thoughts and feelings.
If you’re like many people, you’ve buried that ability under layers of socialization — and by prioritizing human language and analytical thinking over intuitive knowing.
Penelope will guide you in a process with a partner to learn how you have already communicated telepathically with animals and how it works for you.
You might be surprised to find that what’s blocking your ability to receive communication from animals is your fear that an animal might say something you can’t bear to hear!
Participate in an exercise to increase your acceptance of anything animals might communicate.
In this module, you’ll:
- Discover how you’ve already sent and received telepathic communication with other species
- Become familiar with how telepathic communication works for you specifically
- Increase your acceptance of anything an animal might communicate — even if it’s sad or painful information
- Build on your current ability to communicate with animals
- Experience a sharing in pairs exercise with a fellow classmate — to become familiar with how you send and receive telepathic communication and increase your scope of communication with animals
Module 3: Practice Your Telepathic Senses With Verification From a Partner & Discover Which Channels Are Open to You (July 31)
Penelope will show you how to distinguish your thoughts and feelings from others so you can clearly receive other species’ communications.
She’ll guide you to use your extended, internal senses. As you’ll discover, they parallel your physical senses — except they have a finer vibration that can travel across any distance and through barriers.
Discover which telepathic sense channels are most open to you now and the specific ways you receive information.
Learn to emphasize intuitive feeling over logical, analytical thinking, using colors and your favorite places to invoke feelings, sensations, images, and thoughts.
In this module, you’ll:
- Continue to establish a solid foundation for your all-species telepathic communication
- Feel your body as a sensitive, telepathic transmitting and receiving station
- Practice several guided exercises to experience how it feels to send and receive information telepathically while in a relaxed, feeling state instead of the usual mental mode of being
- Have your extended sense perception validated by a human partner during a small group exercise
Module 4: A Master-Level Exercise to Experience All-Species Telepathic Communication (August 7)
When you understand animals and other species from their own perspectives, you facilitate compassion, understanding, and oneness with other beings.
Penelope will guide you through a potent master-level exercise to practice your direct communication ability — the same exercise experienced communicators use to get a truer and deeper understanding of animals.
As she’ll explain, the most direct and complete method of communication is to become one with the animal and experience their feelings, senses, and thoughts in union with them, rather than from a separate position.
This technique helps you minimize outside interference, the overlay of your own thoughts, and misinterpretation. It fosters communion, compassion, harmony, and oneness with other beings, whatever their species.
Apply this master-level exercise to communicate deeply with members of the plant, mineral, and elemental realms — such as trees, mountains, rivers, and landforms.
In this module, you’ll:
- Gain a different perspective on communicating with animals
- Distinguish your own thoughts and feelings from members of other species — so you can understand them and yourself even better
- Realize the variety of experiences and worldviews other species have
- Take your interspecies communication ability to a new level
- “Become” an animal and other species during a guided exercise to deepen your all-species communication
Module 5: Practice Being Calmly Present So You Can Avoid Projecting Your Thoughts & Emotions Onto Animals (August 14)
For this special module, you’re welcome to bring your own animal companion to participate in a few exercises with you, if you both feel comfortable.
You may also bring photos of animal family members and, if desired, any friends or family members’ animals to work with. (For animals other than your own, request permission from the animal’s guardian for you and students of this course to communicate with their animals.)
As Penelope will explain, it’s common to receive short, everyday communications from our animal friends.
Penelope’s approach is to build a foundation that opens you to the magic of pure, deep, transformative communication that changes your life, and the lives of members of other species.
Beyond analyzing physical behavior, expand your ability to perceive the feelings, energies, thoughts, and spiritual essence of animals.
In this module, you’ll:
- Experience a peaceful state of receptiveness and feeling with all your senses
- Be guided through several exercises to become calmly present — to set aside emotional reactions, judgments, and preconceptions so you can receive telepathic communication from animals without projecting your thoughts and emotions onto them
- Remember what it’s like to enjoy full-bodied communication with all of nature
- Participate in a group communication with an animal using a photo of one or more of Penelope’s animal family, sharing what you received and getting feedback from Penelope
Module 6: Use Your Imagination to Communicate With Animals & Further Develop Your Telepathic Communication Skills (August 21)
If you cannot imagine something exists, then it does not exist for you. You block it out or refuse to accept it.
As Penelope will explain, to successfully communicate with animals, it’s vital to be able to imagine that you can receive communication from them.
She’ll guide you through exercises in which you’ll use your imagination to enhance your communication with animals.
Discover that whenever you receive/hear/sense/imagine a communication or answer to your question, it’s important to acknowledge the animal as the source of it.
This encourages you to accept your own ability to communicate telepathically and honors the animal, facilitating further communication.
In this module, you’ll:
- Find the power of imagination to open and develop telepathic communication
- Review the tools we’ve used so far in this course to take us further
- Discover the power of acknowledgments in your communications with animals
- Practice communicating as you and a fellow participant take turns asking questions and receiving messages from each other’s animals
- Use imagination as a tool to help you be more receptive to telepathic communication with animals
Module 7: Practical Applications to Solve Communication Problems You’ll Encounter as You Bring These Practices Into Your Daily Life (August 28)
In small groups, practice taking turns with each other’s animals using photos.
Gain the animal’s perspectives on challenges their person has with them — or things their person doesn’t understand about their animal companion.
You may choose to work alone with your own animal companion, asking questions about anything you don’t understand about them. Penelope can give confirmation and feedback.
Or, choose to work with members of non-animal species, such as a tree in a park, a body of water nearby, a plant in or around your home, a mountain or other land formation you’re curious about and would like to get to know better.
Ask questions about whatever you’ve observed or don’t understand about them to get their perspective.
In this module, you’ll:
- Get feedback and confirmation on what you received
- Experience how your communication ability expands when you help another person with things they don’t fully understand about their animal friend
- Feel the difference and the magic in communicating with life forms other than animals
- Complete a final exercise where in small groups you will work with each other’s animals (or non-animal species)
- Receive confirmation and feedback from Penelope
The Become an Animal Whisperer Bonus Offering
In addition to Penelope’s transformative 7-week online course, you’ll receive this special bonus offering to complement the course and take your understanding and practice to an even deeper level.
Five Articles from Species Link: The Journal of Interspecies Telepathic Communication
PDF Articles From Author and Journal-Founding Publisher Penelope Smith
Penelope launched this quarterly journal in 1990. It continued for 100 issues. These five early articles illustrate the timeless quality of the subjects that have been part of Penelope’s teaching since the 1970s — and have influenced the training of animal communicators around the globe. These articles cover what animals think about, how modern researchers see self-awareness and ethical concepts expressed in animal behavior and communication, and much more.
Animal Talk: Interspecies Telepathic Communication
Ebook by Penelope Smith
Penelope’s foundational book on animal communication is going strong after more than four decades and many editions. Read this Ebook edition and explore how all living creatures have the ability to think, feel, and communicate — although most people have forgotten this. This classic book explains how to open up to the messages that animals around you are sending all the time. Professional animal communicators around the world use what they learned from this book as a foundation for their work.
What People Are Saying About Penelope Smith...
— Dawn Hayman: “Animal Communication Is Also About Communicating With Your Own Heart”
— Tammy Billups: “Penelope’s Course Will Be a Gift to Your Heart and a Gift to How You Relate to Animals”
— Akshaya Kawle: “Each Time Penelope Speaks, It’s as If the Entirety of the Universe Is Sharing Their Experiences Through Her”
— Bernadette King: “I Assure You, Everybody Has a Special Bond With the Animal Community”
— Cat Malkin: “Studying With Penelope Was My Dream Come True”
— Janet Dobbs: “I Had No Idea It Was Possible to Have Such Deep and Rich Relationships With Animals and All Life”
“You are a gift from God to this planet!”
You helped build the foundation on which I now stand and so many future generations of animal communicators will be sent skyward on the wings. You are a gift from God to this planet! You were channeling Divine Mother healing magic long before the rest of us and daring to face controversy your entire life in order to manifest more TRUTH and TENDERNESS in this world. You’ve made an ENORMOUS difference on this planet, Penelope, and I just want to thank you from every little whiskered angel whose life you touched.
— Amelia Kinkade, Animal communicator, founder of The Language of Miracles Institute
“You opened the doors and gave others, like me, the confidence to trust, walk through, and keep sharing these incredible awakenings with others.”
Penelope, you were walking the path of Oneness long before it became a buzzword. Thank you for laying the groundwork throughout your life and showing others what is possible. You opened the doors and gave others, like me, the confidence to trust, walk through, and keep sharing these incredible awakenings with others.
— Sandra Mendelson, CLT, CPT, HC, Animal channel, communicator, and author
“It is because of you I wandered into the wonderful world of animals on a deeper level.”
I want to thank you for not hiding your light under a bushel. It is because of you I wandered into the wonderful world of animals on a deeper level. I talk to the animals who are around me all the time because of your book... Thank you so much, again, for choosing to move your life in this direction. It has blessed all of us who know you, or of you.
— Linda Schultz
“Thank you for coming and giving, once again, a great retreat.”
Thank you for coming and giving, once again, a great retreat. It’s always a pleasure to have you with us and to spend time together.
— Nancy Grace Marder, Executive director, Infinityfoundation.org
“Not only did you touch us all with animal spirit, but so many of us related so much of what you said in human relationship ways, too.”
Thank you from all of us at Peace of Mind Emporium — from the staff, massage people, and especially our customers. Everyone who attended your talk and book signing were so impressed and happy and loved your stories and philosophies. Not only did you touch us all with animal spirit, but so many of us related so much of what you said in human relationship ways, too.
— Julie A. White, RN, MSN, Founder, Peace of Mind Emporium
Join the Global Community
Become an Animal Whisperer offers some of the most transformational online teachings available, within a thriving global community of learning and practice.
Join fellow students and practitioners to support and inspire each other as you integrate the teachings and practices Penelope Smith will share in this powerful program.
You’ll join an international community on the leading edge of manifesting a world grounded in the principles of cooperation, harmony, and reverence for all of life.
Here’s What You’ll Receive
Seven 90-Minute Class Sessions With Penelope Smith
Experience a unique opportunity to be mentored by and learn from Penelope Smith, the pioneering grandmother of interspecies communication — from the comfort of your own home. Each class session includes a livestreaming video option and will guide you to master telepathic connections to understand, heal, and live in harmony with animals and nature. Course sessions are on Wednesdays at 9:00am Pacific.
Seven Video Recordings of Class Sessions
After each class, the video will be available for you to stream in a high-quality format. You’ll never have to worry about missing a session, and you can watch anytime and anywhere at your convenience.
Seven Audio Recordings of Class Sessions
After each class, the audio will be available for you to stream. You’ll never have to worry about missing a session, and you can listen anytime and anywhere at your convenience.
Seven Transcripts of Class Sessions
You’ll also receive the entire class transcription after each session is completed. You can then review, print, and highlight the most important insights and practices you were given.
Seven 30-Minute Interactive Group Practice Sessions
With live class attendance, there will be a 30-minute optional interactive practice session directly following each class. You’ll be placed in an intimate group with several other participants on the Zoom call to interact, share, and do additional practices to help you further integrate the weekly lessons. Practice sessions are not recorded for playback; if you’re unable to attend the live sessions, the Facebook online community group allows you to connect with each other and find alternative times to interact.
Interactive Exercises and Questions for Each Lesson
Between class sessions, you’ll have the option of completing related exercises, practicing new tools, and answering questions to accelerate your learning and integrate each week’s lesson.
Online Community
Our exclusive Facebook online community is the perfect place to continue your discovery process after each class. Here, you can continue the discussion about your course materials and interact with your fellow students to take your exploration to an even deeper level.
The Become an Animal Whisperer Bonus Offering
- Five Articles from Species Link: The Journal of Interspecies Telepathic Communication
PDF Articles From Author and Journal-Founding Publisher Penelope Smith - Animal Talk: Interspecies Telepathic Communication
Ebook by Penelope Smith
An Unprecedented Opportunity to Join the Online Course, Become an Animal Whisperer
We feel honored that Penelope Smith has chosen to partner with The Shift Network to offer this exclusive LIVE online course. This is a unique opportunity to interact directly with a pioneering grandmother of interspecies communication whose powerful insights and insightful work are helping us heal and awaken ourselves and our world.
If you’re serious about building a foundation for conscious connection with animals and nature, then you owe it to yourself, your loved ones, and our world to take this one-of-a-kind program.
If you’re ready to take the next step in your own evolution, click the register button below to reserve your space now.
Your Satisfaction Is 100% Guaranteed!
Your satisfaction is 100% guaranteed! If you don’t absolutely LOVE Become an Animal Whisperer — or don’t feel that it meets your needs — please submit your refund request form on or before July 31, 2024 and we’ll happily issue qualifying customers a refund.
More Praise for Penelope Smith...
“What a great leader!”
What is very impressive about Penelope and her work is she never stands above anyone. She stands as a sister side by side with all life. What a great leader! She is a channel of a very, very bright light and she embodies the fairies, the dance, the music, the people, the animals, and the elements. She is the light. She has returned to who she really is and she is sharing this so that others may remember who they are.
Dr. Laurie Moore, PhD, CHT
“Penelope expands the field of interspecies communication...”
With great warmth and precision, Penelope expands the field of interspecies communication to a spiritual awareness of the interrelatedness of all beings.
Linda Tellington-Jones, Founder of TTEAM, the Tellington-Jones Equine Awareness Method, and the Tellington TTouch
“Our Earth and living beings that inhabit her are richer because [Penelope Smith] is among us.”
I have had the pleasure of knowing and working with Penelope for over 20 years as a trusted retreat leader here at Earthfire Institute, and as a consultant for advice on the rescued wild animals under my care. She is always prompt and caring in her responses to various problems and emergencies. Her insights are remarkable. But more than that I deeply respect her integrity and the personal work she has done to separate personal human issues from the messages she receives. It is because of that that I turn to her for information and advice. Not to mention her courage. Her input has dovetailed remarkably with input from our vets, giving us a more complete picture than we could have gotten from medical advice alone and helping us make better decisions for the animal in question. Our Earth and living beings that inhabit her are richer because she is among us.
Susan B. Eirich, PhD
Founder and executive director of Earthfire Institute
“We are all blessed by your work, Penelope, and your role as our pioneering leader.”
We are all blessed by your work, Penelope, and your role as our pioneering leader. Without your forging the path so long ago and continuing it for all these years, we who have followed in your footsteps would have to work 10 times harder to build credibility and trust and learn on our own. St. Francis is an important guide in spirit for my work, but you are the main being who brought this work possible for us all on the Earth plane for this time. This is a powerful gift you have given the animals, their people, and all of us who now walk in your initial footsteps. Please know that I honor you and what you have created for so many. May you be given 10 times all you have given us. With great respect, gratitude, and love for all you’ve given and created.
Teresa Wagner, MS
Founder of the Animal Loss and Grief Support certification program
“Penelope Smith, I believe, was brought to this world to be the pioneer and founder for the re-connection of human-to-all-creation communication.”
Penelope Smith, I believe, was brought to this world to be the pioneer and founder for the re-connection of human-to-all-creation communication. One is truly blessed to meet her and experience her passion, awareness, and commitment to animal communication. Animal communication is so important to the changes we are experiencing in this world spiritually.
Rev. Karen Kober, RN, CHT
About Penelope Smith
Penelope Smith is the founding pioneer of interspecies telepathic communication, having practiced professionally since the 1970s. Communicating with animals telepathically throughout her life, she discovered in 1971 that animals could be relieved of emotional traumas and other problems through the same counseling techniques that helped humans.
Her training and experience include bachelor’s and master’s degrees in the social sciences... years of training and experience in human counseling, nutrition, and holistic body energy balancing methods... research into animal nutrition, anatomy, behavior, and care... and her firsthand education from the thousands of animals she has contacted.
Penelope published some of the first and now classic books and audio recordings in the field. The tried-and-true telepathic communication techniques she developed are widely used by others in the field. Her students affectionately call her the grandmother of interspecies telepathic communication. As a legendary teacher, she helped launch the careers of professional animal communicators around the world.
Penelope feels that the sacred connection made through telepathic communication with other species is essential for human wholeness. She believes everyone is born with the power to communicate with other species, and that we all can rediscover this ability for the benefit of all beings on Earth.
Frequently Asked Questions
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